We Flipped a House!-Part 2, Renovating a Distressed Property

House for saleThanks for checking back in for Part 2 in my series about flipping a house. If you missed the first post you can go back and catch up. Basically I left you with the reasons why we decided it would be a good idea to flip a house and how we decided to use a home equity line of credit to finance it. Our timeline was 6 months, and we planned on investing a maximum of $100,000 to renovate the house. Today, I’ll tell you what happened and if I would do another flip in the future.

Plans for Renovations

While our original time estimate to complete this project was 6 months, remember that this house was very distressed and needed major renovations. Our partners in this project were going to supply most of the labor other than jobs that had to be sub-contracted, like the roof, electrical, and plumbing.  The project started off great. Our contractor, let’s call him Abe, got his crew together. It consisted of a big, Viking like fellow,  we’ll call him Thor. Thor was full time, skilled labor, and we also had several wage type workers that varied from day to day, depending on the job at hand. Demolition was pretty cool since most of the interior of the house was completely gutted. Thor was really impressive with a sledge hammer. Honestly he could have had his own reality show.

After the initial demolition phase, we decided to revamp the floor plan. As it stood, there were three tiny bedrooms with small closets, and two cramped bathrooms. To make the floor plan more modern, we decided to knock out a wall between two of the bedrooms and make this the master. We also added an en suite bath. We took a portion of the large family room and turned that into a third bedroom with a walk-in closet. A wall was taken out of the kitchen to open it up and a laundry closet was built at the far end of the dining room to get the washer and dryer out of the cooking area. The hall bathroom was enlarged and a soaking tub was included. We also reinforced the walls to the detached garage and added a new roof along with the main house. It will make a huge garage or workshop/office space for the right buyer. .

It is Like a Reality Show!

Everything was going really well until Thor started missing work. He then broke his hand after having an altercation with a tree. His performance was pretty spotty after that, so he was let go. Without a trusty second in command, the project hit a huge slow down. On top of that the roof took much longer than anticipated, and then Abe fell down some steps and broke a few ribs. Since we had a pretty small crew to begin with, things pretty much ground to a hault. By this time, winter was coming on, and while they claim to work year round, it appears construction type people don’t seem to be so motivated in the winter. Nothing gets done during the month of December. I was beginning to wonder if we’d hired Pauline’s handyman. While it was extremely frustrating for my husband and I to see nada happening, our hands were pretty much tied. We are only investors and have little say in the labor process other than to voice our opinions. It seems we hit a huge snag like all the reality shows about flipping seem to have!

Back on Track

Warmer weather seems to have Abe pumped up. It appears that we are now on track to have the house finished and up for sale by May 1st. I won’t hold my breath on that one, but I’m hoping we can be pretty close to that timeline. I know our partners want to get it listed for the summer market, as that is the time when property seems to move the fastest.

Silver Lining

Although the renovations have taken much longer than planned, when you are doing anything that requires construction, you need to expect that there will be delays. Those shows on TV where they completely gut a house and have it up for market in two weeks don’t often happen in reality. While I’m a bit disappointed with the speed of the whole process, there are some positives.

  • We’ve managed to stay on budget, even though the timeline was way off, and we are going to come in right at our $100,000 estimate.

  • Any profits we make will be taxed as long term capital gains instead of short term since this project is going to take over a year when all is said and done.

  • We are still on speaking terms with our partners. My husband and I have certainly said a number of times how it’s easy for them do sit back when we are fronting all the money. I’m also sure that our partners have said it’s easy for us to criticize when we aren’t doing any of the work. I try to keep it all in perspective and see both sides.

  • We have used this as a learning experience. Even if it took a long time, we are still on track to make $20,000-$30,000 in profit with really only about $2400 out of pocket for interest payments. Barring complete negligence from our partners over the next month or so, it will be really hard to lose money on this deal, unless, of course, no one buys the house.

Would We Do It Again?

In conclusion, I guess the question is would we ever consider flipping a house again? Although I  never say never, flipping doesn’t seem to be high on our priority list. We haven’t liked the partnership part where we aren’t in control, and we don’t really have the skills at this point to take on a flip by ourselves. It’s much riskier than investing in a rental property over the long haul.

However, our lack of love for flipping hasn’t changed our take on real estate in general. We plan on using any profit from this deal as a down payment on a second residential rental property with a 1031 exchange. I will certainly talk more about when it happens, and I hope to have updated pictures when everything is done.

Could we have saved  enough on our own for a down payment and not bothered with a risky flip? Yes, but now we still have our savings to invest elsewhere, and this project should fund the down payment. You can certainly fault me for saying I never wanted to take on more debt, but then used a HELOC to finance this project. What I’ve always said is that I won’t take on debt that does’t make money for my family. We would never take equity out of our home for a car or vacation, but we though it was a good financial decision to buy and flip this property. I think if you aren’t strapped for cash and can find the right deal, flipping houses can be extremely rewarding, but I don’t think you’ll see us on reality TV anytime soon!

Do you have any real estate plans in your future? Would you ever consider flipping a house?

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Sydney White is a Texas-born stay at home mom who enjoys spending time with her family, bargain hunting and, of course, writing. She is currently the editor-in-chief of Snipon.com.

73 Comments

  1. It seems that things are going well. I don’t know if I would be able to handle not seeing work done. I am too handy to sit back and wait. Patience is a virtue a guess. I wouldn’t do this, but I would like to purchase rental property one day later down the road. Who knows what the future will bring.

    1. Our rental was certainly stressful, but at least it was all on us. We could work as fast or slow as we wanted. It is odd when that is out of your control. Any investment can be trying, but I think real estate is a wonderful way to help your financial future.

    1. We are putting up the money. They are not charging for Abe’s labor, which is considerable. They also brought us the deal, so we would never have had a shot with such a good buy without their including us. We will get all of our money back plus what we’ve paid in interest, then profits will be split.

  2. Thor and Abe were both injured? You couldn’t make that up!

    I’m really interested in house flipping. My wife and I would like to flip one house every year when we are “retired”.

  3. Thanks for sharing your experience! Id love to renovate a home and rent it out at some point, but im sure there’s a time and a place to flip houses if you really know what you’re doing.

  4. Hmmm I’m not sure I would consider flipping a house. Like you, I would prefer to have rental properties that are bringing in cash flow each month. I would consider buying a distressed property, fixing it up, and then renting it, but probably not selling it. Then again, if you can flip it and make a decent profit right then and there it may be a good idea to just go ahead and sell it. Anyway, my plan is to get a rental property down the road.

    1. I think our partners were good for the most part. I just wish we’d been more insistent on the timeline from the beginning.

  5. Awesome story, but the whole process sounds like a little bit of a nightmare. I think the house flipping shows make it all look just a little too easy. As you found out, it really is a lot of hard work and commitment to see it through to the end. I can tell you with certainty that it is probably not for me. However, you still had a pretty cool experience. Thanks for sharing.

  6. I’ve looked into real estate, but at this time it doesn’t seem like a very good option for me. Houses here are very expense, and I probably couldn’t make positive cash flow renting out most of them. Also, there’s no way that I’ll stay in this area if I ever lose/quit my job.

    If I had a very reliable partner who could handle the contracting part of house flipping, I may consider it. I don’t really have the time or the interest in being that involved in a construction project.

    1. We just don’t have the skills or equipment or knowledge to hire it out without getting ripped off. It was an interesting experience, but I think I’ll stick with rentals from now on.

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